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:Thanks for your post Brian McNeil, have been waiting for a response from the WMF for several months and so far are the one who gave us an answer.
:We are interested in the first instance the accreditation of reporters, then Google News would be discussed here in the community. Now I have a question about Google News Is indexing the news published here in Google News or something? According to the news coming out I posted here are indexed in Google News. Thanks again for your message -'''[[Usuario:MadriCR|''MadriCR]]''' [[Usuario Discusión:MadriCR|<font color="Red">'''(Discusión)'''</font>]] 14:32 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
 
:: Interestingly, I do indeed see es.wikinews being indexed by Google News. Have you implemented some sort of peer-review process prior to publication of articles? That is usually a requirement for a listing in Google News&mdash;otherwise articles on-wiki are classed much the same as blog content.
We are interested in the first instance the accreditation of reporters, then Google News would be discussed here in the community. Now I have a question about Google News Is indexing the news published here in Google News or something? According to the news coming out I posted here are indexed in Google News. Thanks again for your message -'''[[Usuario:MadriCR|''MadriCR]]''' [[Usuario Discusión:MadriCR|<font color="Red">'''(Discusión)'''</font>]] 14:32 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
:: The enWN mechanism to have peer-review involves use of Flagged Revisions, and if you check the RSS feed on our main page you will see there have been additional developments on top of DPL which now allows direct output of feeds without relying on the tool server.
: Interestingly, I do indeed see es.wikinews being indexed by Google News. Have you implemented some sort of peer-review process prior to publication of articles? That is usually a requirement for a listing in Google News&mdash;otherwise articles on-wiki are classed much the same as blog content.
:: Regarding accreditation, the Foundation itself cannot be involved with that. On enWN we implemented a process for established contributors to request community accreditation. Following successfully being granted that due to editorial liability concerns. For us on enWN, users are given an email address on the @wikinewsie.org domain and, at own expense, can have business cards printed up. (See [[:en:File:Sample reporter card.jpg|example]]). --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 15:57 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
: The enWN mechanism to have peer-review involves use of Flagged Revisions, and if you check the RSS feed on our main page you will see there have been additional developments on top of DPL which now allows direct output of feeds without relying on the tool server.
:::If, in this version of Wikinews have peer review, (omitted for those who already are editors / reviewers, who are mostly). Accreditations: So the community must decide whether to grant accreditation? --'''[[Usuario:MadriCR|''MadriCR]]''' [[Usuario Discusión:MadriCR|<font color="Red">'''(Discusión)'''</font>]] 16:12 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
: Regarding accreditation, the Foundation itself cannot be involved with that. On enWN we implemented a process for established contributors to request community accreditation. Following successfully being granted that due to editorial liability concerns. For us on enWN, users are given an email address on the @wikinewsie.org domain and, at own expense, can have business cards printed up. (See [[:en:File:Sample reporter card.jpg|example]]). --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 15:57 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
:::: Yes. As-shown in the example business card, people are "Community Accredited". This is fairly straightforward in that the community discusses and agrees/disagrees that they trust an individual to well-represent the project in the real world for the purpose of news-gathering work. This often gives people a "foot in the door" when it comes to asking for interviews with political figures, limited access behind police lines at crime scenes or other incidents, and (as I am currently using accreditation) access to press previews of exhibitions or major cultural institution reopenings (cf [[:en:National Museum of Scotland reopens after three-year redevelopment|National Museum of Scotland]], [[:en:A portrait of Scotland: Gallery reopens after £17.6 million renovation|Scottish National Portrait Gallery]]).
::If, in this version of Wikinews have peer review, (omitted for those who already are editors / reviewers, who are mostly). Accreditations: So the community must decide whether to grant accreditation? --'''[[Usuario:MadriCR|''MadriCR]]''' [[Usuario Discusión:MadriCR|<font color="Red">'''(Discusión)'''</font>]] 16:12 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
:::: To be perfectly honest, good use of Wikinews Accreditation is a form of [[:en:w:Social engineering (security)|social engineering]]. David Shankbone probably put it to best use; in 2008 he [[:en:Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|landed a face-to-face interview with Shimon Peres]].
::: Yes. As-shown in the example business card, people are "Community Accredited". This is fairly straightforward in that the community discusses and agrees/disagrees that they trust an individual to well-represent the project in the real world for the purpose of news-gathering work. This often gives people a "foot in the door" when it comes to asking for interviews with political figures, limited access behind police lines at crime scenes or other incidents, and (as I am currently using accreditation) access to press previews of exhibitions or major cultural institution reopenings (cf [[:en:National Museum of Scotland reopens after three-year redevelopment|National Museum of Scotland]], [[:en:A portrait of Scotland: Gallery reopens after £17.6 million renovation|Scottish National Portrait Gallery]]).
:::: I'm skipping peer review in relation to Google News listing here, it seems there is far less need for esWN to worry about this as you are effectively listed. It may be worthwhile looking at flagged revisions for some of the anti-vandalism benefits, and an ultra-simple independent review process would allow you to benefit from that without the almost-stifling ultra-strict enWN implementation. A side-effect of us having that process has seen two classes of journalism students at the University of Wollongong assigned to write for ''Wikinews'', and myself and David Blackall are currently authoring an academic paper on the outcome of this being set as classwork. Feedback from students who have had articles published has been near-universally positive, David and I would be most interested in the opinions of esWN contributors regarding reaching out to any educational institutions which do journalism courses and might consider assigning publication on ''Wikinews'' as classwork. --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 18:10 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
::: To be perfectly honest, good use of Wikinews Accreditation is a form of [[:en:w:Social engineering (security)|social engineering]]. David Shankbone probably put it to best use; in 2008 he [[:en:Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|landed a face-to-face interview with Shimon Peres]].
::::: Brian, ¿can we ask for @wikinewsie.org e-mail for the wikireporters who approve our Acreditation policy? --[[Usuario:ProtoplasmaKid|Iván]] [[Archivo:Flag of Mexico.svg|20px]] | [[Usuario Discusión:ProtoplasmaKid|Pase a mi cubículo y los discutimos.]] 22:46 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm skipping peer review in relation to Google News listing here, it seems there is far less need for esWN to worry about this as you are effectively listed. It may be worthwhile looking at flagged revisions for some of the anti-vandalism benefits, and an ultra-simple independent review process would allow you to benefit from that without the almost-stifling ultra-strict enWN implementation. A side-effect of us having that process has seen two classes of journalism students at the University of Wollongong assigned to write for ''Wikinews'', and myself and David Blackall are currently authoring an academic paper on the outcome of this being set as classwork. Feedback from students who have had articles published has been near-universally positive, David and I would be most interested in the opinions of esWN contributors regarding reaching out to any educational institutions which do journalism courses and might consider assigning publication on ''Wikinews'' as classwork. --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 18:10 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
:::::: Yes, if there is a clear indication on a non-English project that someone has community backing, I'm more than happy to issue email addresses. It is, as I say, a ''social engineering'' issue. I'm more than happy to work with anyone, from any language version of ''Wikinews'', on building a perception of credibility or serious journalism. I've played "senior editor" to get people privileged access, and would happily do so again. I've written dozens of introductory messages for reporters, and asked they be given privileged access. We've never lied about who we are, or what might come of giving us access, but the right choice of words puts people in the palm of our hands. If reporters from esWN can benefit from such moves, then just ask. --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 23:23 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
:::: Brian, ¿can we ask for @wikinewsie.org e-mail for the wikireporters who approve our Acreditation policy? --[[Usuario:ProtoplasmaKid|Iván]] [[Archivo:Flag of Mexico.svg|20px]] | [[Usuario Discusión:ProtoplasmaKid|Pase a mi cubículo y los discutimos.]] 22:46 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
::::: Yes, if there is a clear indication on a non-English project that someone has community backing, I'm more than happy to issue email addresses. It is, as I say, a ''social engineering'' issue. I'm more than happy to work with anyone, from any language version of ''Wikinews'', on building a perception of credibility or serious journalism. I've played "senior editor" to get people privileged access, and would happily do so again. I've written dozens of introductory messages for reporters, and asked they be given privileged access. We've never lied about who we are, or what might come of giving us access, but the right choice of words puts people in the palm of our hands. If reporters from esWN can benefit from such moves, then just ask. --[[:en:User:Brian McNeil|Brian McNeil]]/<sup>[[:en:User talk:Brian McNeil|talk]]</sup> 23:23 21 dic 2011 (UTC)
[.] Brian, then what we need is to translate the credentials and initiate the choice, would you then help us to deliver relevant emails? --'''[[Usuario:MadriCR|''MadriCR]]''' [[Usuario Discusión:MadriCR|<font color="Red">'''(Discusión)'''</font>]] 00:52 22 dic 2011 (UTC)
:I can help translating the credentials and related resources. —[[User:Fitoschido|Fitoschido]] <sup>[[User talk:Fitoschido|[grita]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-4ex">[[Special:Contributions/Fitoschido|sigue] ]]</sub style> <small>@ 22 diciembre, 2011; 01:04</small>
 
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